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Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: Eric H. Jung on February 10, 2006, 04:44:38 AM
Hi,

PasswordMaker for Firefox/Mozilla/Netscape/Flock version 1.5 beta 2 has been released and is available here (http://passwordmaker.org/beta.html). Please let me know your experience with it so if I know it's production-quality or not.

Thanks,
Eric
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: tanstaafl on February 10, 2006, 12:55:25 PM
Wow! LOTS of cool new toys! After checking, it looks like another FR never made it to the list, because I know a lot of people were waiting for the ability to populate any field, but its not on the list... oh well, doesn't matter, since it is now done

Thanks Eric! You da man...

Dang email notification is still on the fritz though - unless this forum doesn't send them.
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: tanstaafl on February 10, 2006, 02:57:52 PM
Hi Eric,

Ok, some observations...

In general:Settings Upload/Download:

(I didn't know that the FTP upload was supposed to be working - I thought you had said to ignore the tab, so I hadn't even tried it yet)Many thanks for all your hard work!
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: Eric H. Jung on February 10, 2006, 05:00:21 PM
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Dang email notification is still on the fritz though - unless this forum doesn't send them
It's supposed to work if you're subscribed. InvisionFree (the free host of the forums) is really flaky about emails. I was waiting for quixin to finish skinning the new forums before making the switch, but I think we should just switch now anyway. The new forums even have RSS feeds! And we won't lose any messages if I do it right...

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I like the alternating colors of the items in the list, but when I click on one that is the slightly darker color, I cannot read the text in the item anymore - can you either make the background go dark, or make the text black?
This was a mistake not intended to be released. I'll remove it, but if you really want it I can fix it. The problem is it probably won't look right with some themes, so I'd rather leave it all white.

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Visual feedback when dragging/dropping would be nice
You got it.

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I'd prefer that when the URLs get auto-populated when creating an Account, the 'Use this URL' NOT be the full URL, but just the stripped down root domain
OK, but can you add this to the FRL so I don't lose track of it? I probably won't be able to do it right away for 1.5.

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I didn't know that the FTP upload was supposed to be working - I thought you had said to ignore the tab, so I hadn't even tried it yet
I did say that for the 1.3.x betas. But it's been working since 1.4. See release notes here (http://passwordmaker.org/installation2.html#1.4).

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I'd prefer a simpler interface - more like the way the newer FireFTP does it
I'll take a look at FireFTP. I introduced groups because I thought it would be consistent with the way Accounts and Special Domains work. FWIW, FileZilla and some other desktop FTP clients permit the use of folders/groups. Here's (http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/7653/capture2102006115056am8zj.jpg) an example.

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Since it is planned (I believe) to support different remote server protocols (FTP, WebDAV, etc)
Actually, they're already supported, but the fact that you can't tell that clearly shows me the GUI needs to change :)

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I haven't been able to get this to work with my FTP site, probably because I'm not putting the hostname in right.
Right. Again, the UI apparently must change. Can you put this in the FRL (it can be something vague like "Make the Remote Computers interface easier". To get it to work, enter full URL to the file to upload/download in the URL field. For example:
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: major4579 on February 10, 2006, 05:11:43 PM
Eric,

I too cannot see the text when I've selected a colored band in the accounts.

More importantly, the problem I discussed with 1.5.b1 regarding multiple accounts in Yahoo is still there. To recap I have 2 Yahoo mail accounts and the settings for both are the same:

When Url Contains: yahoo.com
Use this Url: yahoo.com
Auto-populate is checked
No custom auto-populate fields

On EVERY yahoo.com webpage PWM pops-up the "Choose Account" window. This behavior is different from 1.4.4 and earlier where the "Choose Account"  only popped up on the logon page. The settings were not touched between the two versions.

Thanks,
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: Eric H. Jung on February 10, 2006, 07:26:03 PM
Hi,

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I too cannot see the text when I've selected a colored band in the accounts.
Fixed. It will be in beta3.

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More importantly, the problem I discussed with 1.5.b1 regarding multiple accounts in Yahoo is still there.
Thanks for the clarification. I've reproduced this and am working on it.

beta3 -- let's hope the its the last beta for 1.5 -- should be out this weekend.
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: Romeo on February 10, 2006, 07:50:40 PM
I just installed it.  The first thing I checked, of course, was the <ALT>` feature.  I am sorry to report that neither that feature, nor the cool key password population feature work.

Call me weird, but I much prefer using <ALT>` to the autopopulate feature.
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: Eric H. Jung on February 10, 2006, 08:02:46 PM
Damn. This release is really difficult for me. As I wrote before, I had to rewrite a lot of the underpinnings to get auto-populate to work.
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: LkonKbd on February 10, 2006, 09:55:34 PM
"SirEric,"

Just to give you some more to check into or maybe attempt to FIX?  Not really, I loaded PWM v1.5ßeta1 and PWM shows v1.5ßeta1 when clicking on HELP/About.  Under Tools, Extensions is shown as v1.4.3?  That is very strange.

My Alt+` for autopopulate from the KeyBoard works just fine plus the GoldKey works GREAT as well.  I am about to close FF to load the latest version of PWM v1.5ßeta2.  

Thank you for reading this one,
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: Eric H. Jung on February 10, 2006, 10:09:14 PM
Hi LkonKbd,

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Just to give you some more to check into or maybe attempt to FIX? Not really, I loaded PWM v1.5ßeta1 and PWM shows v1.5ßeta1 when clicking on HELP/About. Under Tools, Extensions is shown as v1.4.3? That is very strange.
Yes, I'm aware of this. The version in Tools->Extensions doesn't change for betas...just final releases. The About Box is more accurate.

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My Alt+` for autopopulate from the KeyBoard works just fine plus the GoldKey works GREAT as well. I am about to close FF to load the latest version of PWM v1.5ßeta2.
That is good to know. Thank you :)
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: LkonKbd on February 10, 2006, 10:14:22 PM
"SirEric,"

As mentioned in my previous message, http://forums.passwordmaker.org/index.php?...dpost&p=1195620 (http://forums.passwordmaker.org/index.php?showtopic=744&view=findpost&p=1195620)
"PWM v1.5ßeta1 and PWM shows v1.5ßeta1 when clicking on HELP/About. Under Tools, Extensions is shown as v1.4.3?"  Can now have v1.5ßeta2 placed where the "ßeat1" is and still shown as v1.4.3 under the Tools/Extensions from the MenuBar.  

Thank you for reading this, if it is too confusing just ask,

P.S. Forgot to mention about the "Choose Account" popup when changing pages is still happening.  The difficulties with the 'ColorBands' is not a problem for me as I use the 'Default' Skin, cannot get too fancy with my system as it is slow enough with out all of that.

again thankyou for reading this,
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: morguns on February 11, 2006, 06:16:20 AM
i'm in the middle of rebuilding ye old pc, but have firefox installed and 1.5b1. haven't had too much time to play with it, but the alt-` isn't working for me either. i completely dig the drag and drop! way cool. i'll try to play with it more over the weekend.
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: morguns on February 11, 2006, 06:20:50 AM
woops!! make that 1.5b2.
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: Eric H. Jung on February 11, 2006, 11:02:28 PM
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I just installed it. The first thing I checked, of course, was the <ALT>` feature. I am sorry to report that neither that feature, nor the cool key password population feature work.

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haven't had too much time to play with it, but the alt-` isn't working for me either
I cannot reproduced this with 1.5 beta2. Can you guys give me the settings, website, etc. where I can reproduce it?

edit: For testing, I've been using Yahoo! Mail, http://mailbolt.com (http://mailbolt.com), and this custom page (http://passwordmaker.org/proto/eric.html).
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: morguns on February 12, 2006, 12:33:27 AM
i am using firefox 1.5.0.1 (just updated from firefox 1.5 while writing this). the following extensions are installed: dom inspector 1.8, passwordmaker 1.4.3 (it's the beta of course), tab mix plus 0.3.0.2, and flashblock 1.5.1. system is win xp pro sp2.

the alt-` does not work at gmail.com. i have multiple accounts, and when i hit alt-`, the popup displays the accounts i can choose from. neither double clicking or highlighting and then clicking 'ok' populates the username and/or password fields.

each of the gmail accounts has its own settings (not default). no special fields are specified (no prefix, suffix, modifier, etc.) let me know if i can be more specific.
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: LkonKbd on February 12, 2006, 12:57:00 AM
"SirEric,"

I thought the colors of an item that is selected and the text are controlled by the USER's settings in "ControlPanel">Display, mine is any way.  Maybe using a color like ivory or lime green for the band may have an effect on how well the TEXT can be seen.  I have had mine set to lime green with the text set to black and will change it back to those for testing.  I had changed mine to select is black and text is ivory which gives me some problems in the grey bands but that is my problem to correct.

Thank you for reading this,
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: LkonKbd on February 12, 2006, 01:17:16 AM
"SirEric,"

I just changed mine to selected item>LimeGreen/w Text>Black.  Works just fine except when selecting an account that is in a grey bar there is no color change.  Those that are having difficulties reading their selection could be checked by clicking on 'Start Button' > Settings > ControlPanel > Dislpay > Appearance > Selected Items.  That is on Win98SE not sure what it will be on XP, 2K, 2K3, NT, etceteras.  I attempt to keep mine set to Black so it will show through just about any other color.
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: LkonKbd on February 12, 2006, 01:48:40 AM
Not sure if anyone else has had this problem, but; my FF will not adjust the size of the TEXT on a WebPage by clicking on MenuBar > View > TextSize > Ctrl++ (to increase) or Ctrl+- (to decrease).  This DUMMY and unco-ordinated DOLT was holding down the Crtl key and moved the mouse WHEEL to scroll DOWN and the print became larger so I held the Ctrl key down and moved the mouse to scroll UP and the text became smaller.

Anyone else have this feature?

Thank you for reading this,
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: morguns on February 12, 2006, 03:06:23 AM
i think i stumbled upon another bug with 1.5b2. i opened the advanced options screen and selected some custom fields to display (url to use and the like). then i tried to resize the selected fields and that's when the choo choo left the rails. trying to resize the colums ended up looking like i was trying to rearrange them, and i couldn't resize them at all; everything endup up squished up to the left and unreadable. the only fix i found was to unselect the extra fields and display just the name (default) field. i wanted to make sure it wasn't my system, so i did a quick reboot. alas, the issue persists. i apologize for the less than stellar description, but hopefully i'm getting the point accross.
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: morguns on February 12, 2006, 03:28:52 AM
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edit: For testing, I've been using Yahoo! Mail, http://mailbolt.com (http://mailbolt.com), and this custom page (http://passwordmaker.org/proto/eric.html).
i just noticed your edit eric, so i tested both your test page and fastmail, the alt-` didn't work for either one.
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: Eric H. Jung on February 12, 2006, 04:12:34 AM
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the alt-` does not work at gmail.com. i have multiple accounts, and when i hit alt-`, the popup displays the accounts i can choose from. neither double clicking or highlighting and then clicking 'ok' populates the username and/or password fields...each of the gmail accounts has its own settings (not default). no special fields are specified (no prefix, suffix, modifier, etc.) let me know if i can be more specific.
Thanks, now I can reproduce the bug and am working on it.

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moved the mouse WHEEL to scroll DOWN and the print became larger so I held the Ctrl key down and moved the mouse to scroll UP and the text became smaller. Anyone else have this feature?
This is a standard feature of many Windows applications (e.g., Microsoft Word, IE, etc): holding the cntrl key down while scrolling the mouse wheel changes font size.

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trying to resize the colums ended up looking like i was trying to rearrange them, and i couldn't resize them at all; everything endup up squished up to the left and unreadable
Yikes. I see that, too. It's a drag-and-drop problem. I'll fix it. But now your columns are hosed unless you (1) delete localstore.rdf, (2) create a new FF profile, or (3) manually edit localstore.rdf. If you delete localstore.rdf, you'll lose sizes and preferences for a lot of stuff--not just PasswordMaker. Let me know if you want to pursue option #3. Sorry for the inconvience.

-Eric
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: Eric H. Jung on February 12, 2006, 04:19:41 AM
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Let me know if you want to pursue option #3. Sorry for the inconvience.
I just fixed this. If you are willing to wait for the next beta, you'll be able to drag-and-drop the columns how you like then...no need to do anything else.
Title: PasswordMaker 1.5 beta 2 for Frfx/Moz/Netscp/Flock
Post by: morguns on February 12, 2006, 04:43:43 AM
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I just fixed this. If you are willing to wait for the next beta, you'll be able to drag-and-drop the columns how you like then...no need to do anything else.
no worries :) if worse comes to worst i can always reinstall windows again. jk! thx for the heads-up.

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Thanks, now I can reproduce the bug and am working on it.
uh, cool. glad i was able to out. i was afraid nobody would understand my gibberish.