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Firefox/SeaMonkey/Mozilla/Netscape/Flock Browser Extension => Help and Support => Topic started by: LkonKbd on January 12, 2006, 07:40:57 PM
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Explain to me why is the MasterPassword always "Not at all" when first started? Normality or can that be set to our selection? Have also noticed when accessing another forum the MasterPassword will be required if you are in a custom account and there are two or more selectable accesses.
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To elaborate on the above....
if i use the coolkey keyboard combo, the previously selected "In Memory" for where to store the master password is reset to Not At All
However, if you use any other method to open PM (click the ring icon or use the tools menu in Mozilla Suite), the selection is retained
actually, i don't know if the coolkey toolbar icon retains the password since i have that turned off
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"Trephin,"
Thank you for this info, I have several 'Custom' setups for different Forums I hold membership and also have 'autoFill' selected when I use the GoldKey. The masterpassword is not maintained encrypted in memory though. Could this be a bug or maybe just neglected to have it maintained, by Eric? HiLo Eric, just was wondering what goes.
Thanks for the HELP 'trephin',
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Sorry for not replying earlier. I'm pretty sure this is fixed in 1.4.4 beta1 (http://passwordmaker.org/beta.html). Can you try it and let me know?
Thanks,
Eric
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"Eric,"
Have had some difficulties with this setup on my Wife's system and was a little shaky to download the ßeta1 version. They seem to have cleared now so I will download and TEST 4 U.
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"Eric,"
On the problem you requested I do a test 4U has only been done on PWM through both of my usernames and all seems to be AOK. Will do some testing on some of the other Forums shortly and report back using my alter ego.
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Sorry for not replying earlier. I'm pretty sure this is fixed in 1.4.4 beta1 (http://passwordmaker.org/beta.html). Can you try it and let me know?
Thanks,
Eric
"Eric,"
R U readY?? Just for grins I setup my access to PWM using this UserName in the Default Zone. Now when I go to any website that requires PWM assistance NativeTexan is all that shows, of course that has to be removed and the correct entry made. I removed the 'Auto-populate' feature in the Default Zone and it is still the only entry that appears until I manually make the entry for UserName then the password is entered for the correct site but it is also WRONG and I cannot enter. Looks as though the entry for PWM using NT is going to have to be removed. The Default Zone is not going to work for me as I have all Custom accounts setup.
Will do further testing and report back,
L8R,
Cannot get past the 'Default Zone', have removed all entries in the 'Default' plus set the password length to "BLANK" and with my correct UserName entered the pw field is blank when using Populate With PWM. Still testing.
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Not sure what exactly is happening, but; PWM forums is the only one I can enter. The password or Auto-Populate is not working. I recycled FF, closed and re-open, without any satisfactory results.
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I'm thoroughly confused. Are there any bugs left in 1.4.4 beta1?
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I'm thoroughly confused. Are there any bugs left in 1.4.4 beta1?
"Eric,"
Excuse me, so am I very confused with this. I entered my NativeTexan access to PWM in 'Default' and now I cannot get CastleCops to work, will not populate with my UserName nor password. Uses the 'Default' which is blank except for the password and that is only 3 characters long. Pwm access works for both usernames/w correct passwords plus my ThirtyGigsDotCom addy works AOK. Is there a method to use to clear the 'Default' so it will access my other Custom Accounts?
I changed my NativeTexan account for PWM to a Custom Account and removed all of the info in 'Default'.
P.S. Yes the MPW is being in Memory now. Sorry still confuse by my other problem.
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"Eric,"
Excuse me as I have been having some difficuties with this setup on my Wife's system and maybe should not do any testing for you. Just read over the entries made by me and have trouble understanding them as well.
I will attempt to explain; #1. When I setup NativeTexan in PasswordMaker Forums the entries in PWM was in the 'Defaults' zone. Check the first three (3) boxes, entered UserName, checked 'Auto-populate', made a selection for the length of password and strength of encryption. I did work just fine for that purpose in PWM Forums. When going to any other site all that would appear was the 'Defaults' settings no matter which site was accessed, except for 30Gigs.Com there it did populate with the correct UserName and password. #2. In an attempt to correct the problem of 'Auto-populate' in 'Defaults' after clearing all entries, including 'Length', my access to CastleCops is still using the password entry from 'Defaults' and the user name is entered as the 'Defaults' is now set to 'blank'. Even entering the correct username and 'Populate with PasswordMaker' is also still using the 'Defaults' settings. #3. None of the other sites I have registered on will give me access, only PasswordMakerForums and 30Gigs.Com will the username and password populate automatically and correctly. So far the others will only go as far as the 'DefaultsSettings'.
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"Eric,"
Excuse me as I have been having some difficuties with this setup on my Wife's system and maybe should not do any testing for you. Just read over the entries made by me and have trouble understanding them as well.
I will attempt to explain; #1. When I setup NativeTexan in PasswordMaker Forums the entries in PWM was in the 'Defaults' zone. Check the first three (3) boxes, entered UserName, checked 'Auto-populate', made a selection for the length of password and strength of encryption. I did work just fine for that purpose in PWM Forums. When going to any other site all that would appear was the 'Defaults' settings no matter which site was accessed, except for 30Gigs.Com there it did populate with the correct UserName and password. #2. In an attempt to correct the problem of 'Auto-populate' in 'Defaults' after clearing all entries, including 'Length', my access to CastleCops is still using the password entry from 'Defaults' and the user name is entered as the 'Defaults' is now set to 'blank'. Even entering the correct username and 'Populate with PasswordMaker' is also still using the 'Defaults' settings. #3. None of the other sites I have registered on will give me access, only PasswordMakerForums and 30Gigs.Com will the username and password populate automatically and correctly. So far the others will only go as far as the 'DefaultsSettings'.
I hope this HELPS you,
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All on PasswordMaker,
Excuse me again, forgot to login in the previous posting.
"MiQuelFire,"
See you are not 'alone' a few of us have that part of our brain missing as well.
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NativeTexan,
I'm very confused by what you are saying...
Your Custom Accounts do not automatically follow you when going from one computer to another. They are contained in a separate file called 'passwordmaker.rdf', that is in your FireFox Profile folder something like:
C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\0o9na50z.default\
You can take all of your custom accounts and settings with you by simply copying this one file - but without it, your startring all over from scratch again.
I'm not positive thats your problem, but it sounds like it might be...
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NativeTexan,
I'm very confused by what you are saying...
Snip snip,
. . your startring all over from scratch again.
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From NT: No, not starting over.
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I'm not positive thats your problem, but it sounds like it might be...
"Tanstaafl,"
Forgive me for not being clear enough on this one.
I have all of my files here on this system with me. The MBD in my CPU died so I removed my H/D and placed it within my 'Wife's' system and have managed to tie my pofile in FF to her copy of FF, that is the same version1.5 along with PWM extension v1.4.4ßetaOne (this version was downloaded after the transfer of my H/D). So all of my systems files are here and for some reason, and it may be caused by my placing NativeTexan access to PWM Forums in 'Defaults', may be interferring with my other forum accesses. They are all in 'Custom Accounts' even my 30GigsDotCom account. The only one placed within the 'Defaults' is NT for PWM. When accessing 30Gigs and PWM Forums everythingy works just fine. When I access CastleCops, Wilders, Net-Integrations, Safer-Networking, etceteras, they all are being given the 'Defaults' info for my UserName and Password, which is blank at this time. I removed every entry I had made in 'Defaults' for NativeTexan. That has all been removed and re-established in a 'Custom Account'. If you need to know any more about how I managed to setup this system I will go into farther detail, but; that will not assist in this problem from my point of view.
If there are any specific questions you have please let me have them.
I await your return,
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Your terminology is very confusing...
1. You cannot simply copy a FireFox USer Profile from one computer to another and expect it to work - unless the UserName is *identical* on both computers. The reason for this is the paths that are hard-coded into the FireFox Profile (I *really* wish the FFox devs would use relative paths, but thats another issue entirely).
2. You cannot 'remove' the 'Defaults' Settings - nor can you 'place' a login for a specific account in the 'Defaults'.
You can *use* the 'Defaults' *Settings* for *accessing* an Account, but when moving from one computer to another, the same rule applies as for Custom Accounts... if you made any *changes* to the Defaults on the other computer, in order for PWM to be able to generate the same Passwords, you must adjust the 'Defaults' Settings to be *identical* with the ones that were used to initially generate the password.
If they are not working, then you are missing something in the Defaults settings - the username, the URL, the Character Set, the Hash algorithm - something.
Simply using the Defaults settings for one account/URL can not somehow 'interfere' with using it for another Account/URL.
The only thing that I can see that might be a cause is:
and have managed to tie my pofile in FF to her copy of FF, that is the same version1.5 along with PWM extension v1.4.4ßetaOne (this version was downloaded after the transfer of my H/D)
If you didn't copy the passwordmaker.rdf file from your old profile to the new profile, then you are not using the same Settings. If you still have your old PRofile, try closing Firefox completely, and copying the passwordmaker.rdf file from the old profile to the new one *replacing* the one that is there currently. BE SURE TO WRITE DOWN ANY NEW ACCOUNT SETTINGS YOU MAY HAVE MADE SINCE USING THIS NEW PROFILE BEFORE DOING THIS.
I wish I could be more helpful, but I am having a very hard time understanding precisely what you did.
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"Tanstaafl,"
One item at a time. #1. I moved the HardDrive from my computer to my Wife's with all of my files included on my HardDrive.
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"Tanstaafl,"
Next item, #2. I copied my profile from my HardDrive to the folder for profiles, C:\%WIN%\Application Data\Mozilla and added it below my Wife's profile. I did not have a profile on her computer before because I had my own computer. I went in and added " -profilemanager " (without the quotes) to the ShortCut for starting FF so I can select my own profile to have my Bookmarks and my PasswordMaker creator of my 'Custom Accounts', NOT using 'Defaults'. I have never used 'Defaults' until creating NativeTexan in http://forums.passworkmaker.org/ (http://forums.passworkmaker.org/) after installing PWM v1.4.4 ßeta One.
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"Tanstaafl,"
Item #3. After discovering the 'Defaults' was selected first instead of going to my 'Custom Accounts' NT was removed and added to my 'CA' for PasswordMaker. All entries in 'Defaults' were removed so that is now blank even the password length is blank.
My access to PasswordMaker for both accounts work fine even my access to my 30GigsDotCom account, works great. All other accounts are accessing the 'Defaults' because they come up blank, I had placed 3 in the password length field and three asterisks were shown for any other account accessed even thought there was not a password there nor account selected, all blank. As I had mentioned before, "all of my accounts are 'Custom Accounts' with 'Auto-populate' selected for most. But, 'Defaults' is what is used to fill in or 'Auto-populate' for me. I later removed the password length so it is now blank. So when I access any other account my UserName and Password that are 'Auto-Populated' for me are now blank.
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"Eric,"
In my message above at location:
http://forums.passwordmaker.org/index.php?...dpost&p=1130601 (http://forums.passwordmaker.org/index.php?showtopic=670&view=findpost&p=1130601)
There is a P.S. "Yes the MPW is 'stored' in Memory 'Encrypted' now. Sorry still confuse by my other problem."
I added the single quoted words above to assist in making that a little more clear. When entering my NativeTexan in 'Defaults' instead of 'Custom Accounts' I have been unable to remove the entry completely even though they are all blank now. It still accesses 'Defaults' instead of going to my 'Custom Accounts'. For my other accesses for the other forums. My access for PasswordMaker Forums is working just fine, both accounts.
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"Tanstaafl" and "SirEric,"
The problem I was having is when accessing an account for any of the forums I hold membership all that PWM would use for entry to that account was the 'Default' settings, which I had removed and even the UserName. I created a new CustomAccount for that NativeTexan and made all of my entries to access PassWordMaker. Could not make PWM use the new CustomAccount. I finally did by editing the 'passwordmaker.rdf' file, and that was some time back and do not remember what was removed, but; all are working correctly now even CastleCops. I discovered what was in error for them, the field 'When URL contains:' was not entered correctly and that has been made correct now and is working just fine. Mine ERROR!!!
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OK. By the way, you can't remove the 'Default' settings (unless you hack the RDF file). It's not supposed to be removed...
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OK. By the way, you can't remove the 'Default' settings (unless you hack the RDF file). It's not supposed to be removed...
"SirEric,"
This system will not accept either of my passwords. So this is the only method I have to reply.
I know you cannot remove the 'Defaults' settings, the entries or settings are what I was referencing, even when the entries were removed, made blank, they still were selected and would not allow me to use any of my 'CustomAccounts'. At that time I had to enter may user/name and then use the 'Copy Generated Password To Clipboard' then do the pastey thingy. That is when I went into the 'password.rdf' file and did my little editing job to remove those entries for 'Defaults' and now it is doing just fine. I will not use the 'Defaults' any at all, only 'CustomAccounts.
TIA CU L8R,
etceteras . .
LkonKbd not loggedin because the system will not allow me.
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This system will not accept either of my passwords. So this is the only method I have to reply.
In your last message you seemed to indicate you had figured out what you were doing wrong...
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I know you cannot remove the 'Defaults' settings, the entries or settings are what I was referencing, even when the entries were removed, made blank, they still were selected and would not allow me to use any of my 'CustomAccounts'. At that time I had to enter may user/name and then use the 'Copy Generated Password To Clipboard' then do the pastey thingy.
This indicates to me that you are still not getting the 'When URL Contains' and 'Use this URL' fields right. Maybe you need to step back, regroup, and start over?
That is when I went into the 'password.rdf' file and did my little editing job to remove those entries for 'Defaults' and now it is doing just fine.
I have no idea what you mean here...
The Defaults are only used when the current URL doesn't match one that is defined in the 'When URL Contains' field in one of your Custom Accounts. If you navigate to a URL, and PWM doesn't use the Account that you have set up, it is because you have something wrong in the 'When URL COntains' field for that Account.
Either that or your passwordmaker.rdf file is totally hosed, in which case starting from scratch sounds like the best way to handle this, even if you have to change all of your passwords again.
Hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you're just having too much trouble with this for too long - something is wrong.
Charles
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Hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you're just having too much trouble with this for too long - something is wrong.
I'm still a perma-noob when it comes to Adobe Photoshop :crazy:
Everyone's a perma-newbie at something...
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In your last message you seemed to indicate you had figured out what you were doing wrong...
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This indicates to me that you are still not getting the 'When URL Contains' and 'Use this URL' fields right. Maybe you need to step back, regroup, and start over?
I have no idea what you mean here...
The Defaults are only used when the current URL doesn't match one that is defined in the 'When URL Contains' field in one of your Custom Accounts. If you navigate to a URL, and PWM doesn't use the Account that you have set up, it is because you have something wrong in the 'When URL COntains' field for that Account.
Either that or your passwordmaker.rdf file is totally hosed, in which case starting from scratch sounds like the best way to handle this, even if you have to change all of your passwords again.
Hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you're just having too much trouble with this for too long - something is wrong.
Charles
"Tanstaafl,"
Guess what? All "bets" are off as of this time, what is meant here, everythingy is working normally again.
Yesterday none of my accesses to PasswordMaker would work, attempted several times. Made my entry in http://forums.passwordmaker.org/index.php?...dpost&p=1240817 (http://forums.passwordmaker.org/index.php?showtopic=670&view=findpost&p=1240817) and today, not changing anythingy in my PasswordMaker, and back in normally, if you would consider me Normal, I don't.
This having the 'Quoted' message in one window and my replys in another is confussing to me, will attempt to adapt.
In my last message on "editing my 'passwordmaker.rdf' file" is not covering what I had done WRONG, but; what was done to cause the PWM to STOP using the 'Default' settings. Even when I had cleared all entries in 'Default' the system was still accessing 'Default' even though they were blank. That is WHY 'Defaults' will not be used by me any at all. 'CustomAccounts' only for me.
NOT EVEN, "Maybe you need to step back, regroup, and start over?" to quote from your entry. NO, my '..rdf' file is NOT Hosed, maybe I should be, but; not at this time. Maybe I need to go to my other accounts on other Forums to see how they are doing now, as some have not been accessed in several days, weeks and months. I have been working on another project for a friend in a wheel chair and doing some of this when there is time to get to it.
"Tanstaafl,"
I am not smart enough to take any HELP the wrong way, any criticisum is taken as HELP, because; I need all I can find. I just HOPE anythingy I say here is not taken the wrong way because I am concentraiting on what I have done in an attempt to remember it so I can tell all what is happening and how I was able to accomplish the task at hand. If you have not figured out yet I do get a little wordy at times and do not re-read what I have put down, I am confused enough without trying to figure my own messages. If you are confused just ask and I will attempt to clarify, or maybe make the mud a little transparent, after I come up for some air.
Now, what were we discussing? I know, just kidding.
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Hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you're just having too much trouble with this for too long - something is wrong.
I'm still a perma-noob when it comes to Adobe Photoshop :crazy:
Everyone's a perma-newbie at something...
OK, Eric, what would you classify me? I have problems with everythingy except when my system is in the OFF condition.
As for Adobe, I think that is a great system, I do not have to create any of the files, PDFs, that it uses.
So I am a Newbie, newby, oldie, that is perma also.
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"Maybe I need to go to my other accounts on other Forums to see how they are doing now, as some have not been accessed in several days, weeks and months. I have been working on another project for a friend in a wheel chair and doing some of this when there is time to get to it."
OK, here I go again, well not really, have gone and entered CastleCops and MozillaZine, both at the same time and had NO problem. Even downloaded "NoScript" v1.1.3.9 and have to restart FF to have it activated, will do that after posting this.
Was having problems with CastleCops, minor ones, and MozillaZine and that was solved by changing the length of my password and those are working PERFECTLY FINE.
When doing these posts that "ChooseAccount" window is still shown even when doing the preview of my message.
Will report back on some of the others after my restart and maybe tomorrow for the others to be tested.
Thank you for being patient with me and when I get these reports finished I think my input to you will have to come to a HALT. I do not want to cause any confusion with my use of terms and titles for things, my terms are non-standard because I am not a programmer nor any of the other that are accused of being a problem. Like Skip Kiddy, Hacker, Geek-a-zoid, Nerd-a-zoid, Flakey, Square Eyes, KeyBoardJockey, Tip Tapper, Tripper on a KeyBoard, etceteras. Some were some of my own creations, I am also very confident you could tell.
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"SirEric,"
Have checked out three (3) other Forums, Net-Inegration, AV Comaratives and SaferNetworking and they are doing just fine, like FROG hair, if you can find it. There are several more but they have not been used in months some in over 5 months. Not going to worry about them, AntiVir, CastleCops, Safer Networking, Net-Integration and PasswordMaker are the main ones I use.
I hope some of what I have done and provided have been some enlightnment to you. I will be back to see how thingys are going but will not post unless I have more troubles, and that will probably be of mine own miss doings.
GOOD LUCK on the new setup and work you have planned.