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Title: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: John Liebson on December 15, 2010, 07:31:34 PM
This is NOT aa complaint, a criticism, a "please fix" demand, nor any other denizen of that den of iniquity.

Rather, it is nothing more than a simple question, namely, is there any "more or less of a schedule" for updating PWM to work with Firefox 4 Beta 7?
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: Miquel 'Fire' Burns on December 15, 2010, 10:34:51 PM
When the first release client is made is when work will start.
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: John Liebson on December 15, 2010, 10:52:22 PM
Thanks---but please let me point out, again, that Beta7 is considered the bench-mark release for modifying extensions, dozens of which have been so modified over the past several weeks.

I posted a link to the Mozilla information about this, on this forum, http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2010/11/11/making-add-on-compatible-firefox-4/ , 10 November 2010. That document starts, "Firefox 4 beta 7 is out, and now is the best time to evaluate your add-on’s compatibility with the next major Firefox release. This is the first “feature frozen” release, meaning that there will be no more major changes performed to the UI, APIs or features in Firefox."
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: Miquel 'Fire' Burns on December 22, 2010, 04:10:19 PM
Use Add-on Compatibility Reporter to run PasswordMaker on FF4

As it stands now, it seems to work just as well. For some reason, I still get the blank window thing, so if I have time over the holidays, I might look into that.
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: John Liebson on December 22, 2010, 04:43:31 PM
Use Add-on Compatibility Reporter to run PasswordMaker on FF4

As it stands now, it seems to work just as well. For some reason, I still get the blank window thing, so if I have time over the holidays, I might look into that.
Thanks. I had used the Compatibility Reporter with FF Beta4, and Password Maker did not work at all; based on that, I had not tried installing PWM in Beta 7, but just did with what will probably be Beta 8, and found that PWM does work.

"...probably will be Beta 8..": After Beta 8 was promulgated to the mirrors, and appeared on the Mozilla Releases page, one problem arose. There's quite a bit of traffic about this on various sources, such as MozillaZine and, as of this missive, no official notice as to whether the currently-available Beta 8 will be officially released or if it will be retracted and replaced.

At any event, having just used PWM successfully, I shall conclude that it works successfully; that, of course, ruins my day, as it forces me to go find something else to complain about.

For example, Bah! Humbug!; people who post messages with such absurdities as "!?!?!?,"; "I have a question?"--in the latter case, apparently the person doing the posting does not even know if they have a question; the misuse of `ts' and it's; and. of course, everything else.....
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: Miquel 'Fire' Burns on December 22, 2010, 06:06:26 PM
Portable Apps have Beta 8 out, so that's why I tried it. Wish I had thought to try it with Beta 7 however.
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: John Liebson on December 22, 2010, 07:53:04 PM
Quick follow-up: Beta 8 has been released, as shown (among other locations) at http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html . Checking other official sites, it appears that the version dated 16 Dec 2010, which is what I used to test PWM, is the same as the version released a short time ago, so that my brief testing would also appear to have been valid for Firefox 4.0 Beta 8.
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: John Liebson on December 23, 2010, 05:25:32 PM
Small problem: Ctrl+`\Tilde does not work with Beta 8; you have to go into the Add-Ons page, select "Options" there to get PWM to appear on-screen.
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: Eric H. Jung on December 26, 2010, 08:34:59 PM
That sucks
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: John Liebson on December 26, 2010, 09:06:19 PM
I had a very strange crash in Firefox 3.6.13 last week, which caused lots of headaches, including that, apparently, the crash also managed to corrupt the profile for Beta 8, which was running at the same time. In creating a new profile for Beta 8, while installing extensions I did find that PWM does appear in the right-click context menu--but restoring the missing Ctrl+` would be helpful.
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: Miquel 'Fire' Burns on December 27, 2010, 01:45:43 AM
If you enable the menubar (they need to add something like the wretch icon Chrome has before they remove the menubar), it's under Tools like it is under pre-4 versions.
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: John Liebson on December 27, 2010, 11:53:28 AM
If you enable the menubar (they need to add something like the wretch icon Chrome has before they remove the menubar), it's under Tools like it is under pre-4 versions.
Yes, I've got that icon visible, but it is the keystrokes that I reported that don't work: They are not critical, given the icon to open PWM, but I have developed the habit of using the keystrokes in earlier versions of Firefox, and find it disconcerting when I press Crtl+` and nothing happens.

For whatever reason--or, more likely, lack thereof--I've never put the "open PWM" icon on the menu bar, mainly as my menu bar (in 3.6.x) already has enough clutter, and because I'm as capable of using the keyboard as using the mouse and don't have a problem in switching from mouse to keyboard, etc. Also, I find it too easy to click on the open icon when I mean to click on the CoolKey if both are on the menu bar.
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: Miquel 'Fire' Burns on December 28, 2010, 12:27:18 AM
The menu thing I'm talking about, you have no control over what goes there. There's three items under the PasswordMaker menu, Open PasswordMaker, Coolkey, and Clear Master Password.
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: Eric H. Jung on January 05, 2011, 04:45:05 AM
I'll investigate the Ctrl+` issue shortly. In other words, I'll try to begin supporting Firefox 4 before a release candidate (OMG WHAT AM I GETTING MYSELF INTO)
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: John Liebson on January 05, 2011, 01:17:39 PM
I'll investigate the Ctrl+` issue shortly. In other words, I'll try to begin supporting Firefox 4 before a release candidate (OMG WHAT AM I GETTING MYSELF INTO)
The answer to your question is very simple, a mess....

Beta 9, as of yesterday, is scheduled to be released Thursday 13 Jan 2011; always subject to change if problems found.
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: Eric H. Jung on January 05, 2011, 11:16:19 PM
Beta 9?!   ???

You do realize that Beta 7 was supposed to be the last beta.
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: John Liebson on January 05, 2011, 11:36:26 PM
Beta 9?!   ???

You do realize that Beta 7 was supposed to be the last beta.
That theory was refuted some time ago. The beta-test system now lists Beta 9 with dates, then BetaN, and, finally, release. Beta 10 is already in the works, but I don't know its schedule as of now. Nonetheless, the information about major changes now not being put into the beta releases is still in effect, so that, for example, if your efforts in PWM work in Beta 9, but not in Beta 10, changes that need to be made to PWM would then be minor. (Of course, "minor", when it comes to computer program means to me that someone else is doing the work...).
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: Eric H. Jung on January 06, 2011, 01:34:06 AM
(Of course, "minor", when it comes to computer program means to me that someone else is doing the work...).

Yes... perhaps you, Sir John!
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: John Liebson on January 06, 2011, 12:32:25 PM
(Of course, "minor", when it comes to computer program means to me that someone else is doing the work...).

Yes... perhaps you, Sir John!
I'm usually friendly, not "sir-ly." As for programming, while I have a rather odd assortment of skills, that is definitely not one of them.
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: Steve D on February 22, 2011, 11:52:11 PM
Hi guys. Been watching the PasswordMaker development for the Firefox 4 Beta for a while.

I also get the grey screen when I use the toolbar button, but PM works as expected when I use the Options button in the Extensions list.

I noticed this post from the Add-ons blog today about a competition for updating extensions for Firefox 4. It also confirms that the API is frozen now.


Just in case you missed it. :)
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: Miquel 'Fire' Burns on February 23, 2011, 12:22:26 AM
The gray screen is a bug that happens in Firefox 3.5 as well. The cause is unknown at this time.
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: tanstaafl on April 03, 2011, 04:52:41 PM
Just fyi, updated to Ff4 last week and PWM seems to be working flawlessly (for me at least)...

Thanks Eric!
Title: Re: Update for Firefox 4 Schedule?
Post by: John Liebson on April 07, 2011, 05:27:05 PM
Well, my life has been ruined, as now I've got to find something new to complain about, as PWM's Ctrl+Tilde key works quite well with Firefox 4.0.

I suppose I could say thanks, but then that would contradict my first statement in this posting.

Ah, ha, I have a way to get around this: I have been fighting with Nuance over PDF Converter since 28 December 2010, thirteen days after I purchased it, only to finally have them tell me, earlier today, that not only will it not work with Firefox 4, they have no plans to update it to make it work. This is weird, given this line in their install.rdf:

<em:maxVersion>4.*</em:maxVersion>

As I already have someone/something (namely a quite incompetent company, from which I also purchased extended download, but when I try to access the file to download it again, their system tells me that I have no orders,) to fight with, I shall say, "Thanks, all is well--or at least with PWM, at least for now." (How's that for a nice, ungrudging note of appreciation?)