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Firefox/SeaMonkey/Mozilla/Netscape/Flock Browser Extension => Help and Support => Topic started by: jo1645 on May 01, 2006, 03:08:50 PM

Title: Help needed please
Post by: jo1645 on May 01, 2006, 03:08:50 PM
I have spent a lot of time trying too get this password manager to work and eventually did,however,I exported the RDF file too a second PC only to find that when I try and log into the same sites as on the first PC the wrong passwords would be inserted into the password field only too be replaced by a automatically generated one.

I am sorry I don't understand what is going on I need some help please.
Title: Help needed please
Post by: Miquel 'Fire' Burns on May 01, 2006, 04:03:53 PM
1) We need more details. Judging from the context of the post, I can assume you're working with the Firefox extension, but you posted in the Other Editions area of the forum, which means you could be using the Command-Line Edition on the second PC. If it's just the Firefox extension, we can move this topic. It will make it that more easier on us to find the issue you're having.

2) If you are in fact working with only the Firefox extension, then you might want to make sure the two are running the same version. if they are, you might be confusing the built in password manager with PasswordMaker.

3) If you're using the Command-Line Edition on the second PC, it only handles the autogenerated passwords, and DOES NOT read the Master Password by design.
Title: Help needed please
Post by: jo1645 on May 01, 2006, 05:21:03 PM
Quote from: miquelfire
1) We need more details. Judging from the context of the post, I can assume you're working with the Firefox extension, but you posted in the Other Editions area of the forum, which means you could be using the Command-Line Edition on the second PC. If it's just the Firefox extension, we can move this topic. It will make it that more easier on us to find the issue you're having.

2) If you are in fact working with only the Firefox extension, then you might want to make sure the two are running the same version. if they are, you might be confusing the built in password manager with PasswordMaker.

3) If you're using the Command-Line Edition on the second PC, it only handles the autogenerated passwords, and DOES NOT read the Master Password by design.

Yes I am using the Firefox Extension Please do move to the correct location. My apologies.

I am using version 1.5.1 on both PC's


I am not using the command line version.

One PC has Windows XP Home + all updates The other PC has Windows 2000 Pro + all Updates.

Even using the passwordmaker to create my password for this forum,each time I tried to log in passwordmaker would insert a random password generated by passwordmaker. even though I used the advanced auto populate function. I have Firefox password manager turned off.
Title: Help needed please
Post by: Eric H. Jung on May 01, 2006, 06:24:20 PM
Are you sure you're using the same master password on both PCs?
Title: Help needed please
Post by: Guest_jo1645_* on May 01, 2006, 07:09:24 PM
Quote from: Eric H. Jung
Are you sure you're using the same master password on both PCs?

Yes the Master Password is exactly the same.
Title: Help needed please
Post by: morguns on May 01, 2006, 11:11:19 PM
did you "export" the settings in the .rdf file? or did you simply copy the .rdf file to the 2nd pc? if you did the former, bypass the "export" and try copying the .rdf (via usb drive or something) and let us know what you get.
Title: Help needed please
Post by: John Barnett on May 02, 2006, 01:33:13 PM
Quote from: morguns
did you "export" the settings in the .rdf file? or did you simply copy the .rdf file to the 2nd pc? if you did the former, bypass the "export" and try copying the .rdf (via usb drive or something) and let us know what you get.


I am replying to this as a guest as I lost my login details.

I exported the file to my desk top and then sent it to my other PC via email, then I imported the rdf file to passwordmaker.

I have had to uninstall the extension because on my original PC this morning it was filling in passwords with the wrong password, the extension was using one that it was generating form the web page I was viewing at the time.

I am reluctant to continue with this at this time.
Title: Help needed please
Post by: Eric H. Jung on May 02, 2006, 02:42:39 PM
Sorry to hear you had so much trouble, John. PasswordMaker is supposed to make life easier, not more difficult.
Title: Help needed please
Post by: tanstaafl on May 02, 2006, 08:15:12 PM
I cannot confirm this problem, but to be honest, I haven't been doing much copying/emailing of my RDF file either.

I do on a regular basis copy one particular RDF file that has the account settings for our domain to a users computer, and have never had a problem with it generating wrong passwords, but it isn't a very good test case either...

John, could you post your list of installed extensions and plugins?

Also, I'm a little confused on the problem description though...

What did you mean by:

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only to find that when I try and log into the same sites as on the first PC the wrong passwords would be inserted into the password field only too be replaced by a automatically generated one
and then

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I have Firefox password manager turned off
If a password is being entered BEFORE Passwordmaker is entering one, then something else is populating your password field.

Are you quite certain that you don't have some other password manager in play?

If not, then one thing I can suggest is to do a checksum on the original RDF file, and the one that ends up on the second computer, and see if the file is actually the exact same file, bytewise.

Title: Help needed please
Post by: Guest on May 05, 2006, 07:40:00 AM

Ok lets forget about the 1st PC I have Roboform on that one.

I will deal with my second PC now. I have disabled the FF password manager.

I set a master password first.

Then.

I installed the password maker extension and deleted any previous password I had created with it. I want to use existing passwords so I have created a new group and in that group a new account. I want to use the Advanced Auto Populate function with the user name and password I already have, so in the user name section I entered my user name and in the Advanced Auto-Populate section I entered my password in field Name and field value by clicking onto the password that was in the password filed on the web site I want to log into.

I then pressed the add button which added the password to the small window below the Add & Delete Selection buttons.

Now, when I go to the web page I want to log into which is www.pcanswers.co.uk then go to the forum section to log in, the user name is not populated and the password is compleatly different form the one that is in the Advanced Auto-Populate section. So what am I doing wrong?

Regards
John
Title: Help needed please
Post by: Guest on May 05, 2006, 08:32:05 AM
You asked for a list of extensions and I left the list off the last post so here it is.

Generated: Thu May 04 2006 19:01:31 GMT+0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060426 Firefox/1.5.0.3
Build ID: 2006042618

Enabled Extensions: [16]
- All-In-One Sidebar 0.6.4: http://firefox.exxile.net/aios/ (http://firefox.exxile.net/aios/)
- Calculator 1.1.2: http://calculator.mozdev.org (http://calculator.mozdev.org)
- CustomizeGoogle 0.47: http://www.customizegoogle.com/ (http://www.customizegoogle.com/)
- Fasterfox 1.0.3: http://fasterfox.mozdev.org/ (http://fasterfox.mozdev.org/)
- FlashGot 0.5.9.995: http://flashgot.net (http://flashgot.net)
- Forecastfox 0.9.0.1: http://forecastfox.mozdev.org/ (http://forecastfox.mozdev.org/)
- FoxyTunes 1.1.5.4: http://www.foxytunes.org/firefox/ (http://www.foxytunes.org/firefox/)
- IE Tab 1.0.9: http://ietab.mozdev.org/ (http://ietab.mozdev.org/)
- Mozilla Calendar 0.2.0.20060116: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/ (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/)
- MR Tech Local Install 4.6.4: http://www.mrtech.com/extensions/local_install/ (http://www.mrtech.com/extensions/local_install/)
- N0HR Propfire 0.73: http://www.n0hr.com/FirefoxExtensions/propfire (http://www.n0hr.com/FirefoxExtensions/propfire)
- PasswordMaker 1.5.1: http://passwordmaker.org/ (http://passwordmaker.org/)
- ScrapBook 1.0.2: http://amb.vis.ne.jp/mozilla/scrapbook/ (http://amb.vis.ne.jp/mozilla/scrapbook/)
- SpellBound Development 0.9.8.20060108: http://spellbound.sourceforge.net/ (http://spellbound.sourceforge.net/)
- StumbleUpon 2.61: http://www.stumbleupon.com/ (http://www.stumbleupon.com/)
- Tab Mix Plus 0.3.0.5: http://tmp.garyr.net (http://tmp.garyr.net)

Installed Themes: [2]
- Firefox (default): http://www.mozilla.org/ (http://www.mozilla.org/)
- Mostly Crystal 1.5.0.13: http://www.tom-cat.com/mozilla (http://www.tom-cat.com/mozilla)

Installed Plugins: (11)
- Adobe Acrobat
- Free Download Manager Click Catcher Plug-In for Netscape, Opera, Mozilla
- Java™ 2 Platform Standard Edition 5.0 Update 5
- Microsoft® DRM
- Mozilla ActiveX control and plugin support
- Mozilla Default Plug-in
- PCMan's IE Tab Plug-in for Mozilla/Firefox
- RealPlayer Version Plugin
- RealPlayer™ G2 LiveConnect-Enabled Plug-In (32-bit)
- Shockwave Flash
- Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Link Library

Regards
John B
Title: Help needed please
Post by: aaaaa on May 05, 2006, 08:51:31 AM
Title: Help needed please
Post by: Guest on May 06, 2006, 01:25:34 AM
Hi John,

Your installed extensions have nothing to do with this.

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I set a master password first.
In PasswordMaker or in the Firefox Password Manager?
Title: Help needed please
Post by: Guest on May 06, 2006, 09:55:48 AM
So, why will the passwordmaker not do what it is supposed to do  

Regards
John B
Title: Help needed please
Post by: Eric H. Jung on May 06, 2006, 10:57:41 AM
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I set a master password first.
In PasswordMaker or in the Firefox Password Manager?
Title: Help needed please
Post by: tanstaafl on May 06, 2006, 03:24:22 PM
Quote from: Guest
Hi John,

Your installed extensions have nothing to do with this.
Actually, they did on his first computer - he had Roboform on it, as he said...


Quote from: Guest
So, why will the passwordmaker not do what it is supposed to do  

Regards
John B
Because you're missing something...

Maybe you should start over and tell us your exact steps you're taking, from the point of installing PWM...
Title: Help needed please
Post by: Guest on May 07, 2006, 07:48:17 AM
Quote from: Eric H. Jung
In PasswordMaker or in the Firefox Password Manager?


In passwordMaker.


John.
Title: Help needed please
Post by: Guest on May 07, 2006, 07:55:12 AM
Quote from: tanstaafl
Actually, they did on his first computer - he had Roboform on it, as he said...
Because you're missing something...

Maybe you should start over and tell us your exact steps you're taking, from the point of installing PWM...

If you read May 5 2006, 07:40 AM post this tells you what I did from piont of installing PWM.

I never set a master password in the FF password manager.


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Because you're missing something...

Mmmm I gathered that that's why I am asking on here  


Title: Help needed please
Post by: tanstaafl on May 07, 2006, 04:02:22 PM
Quote from: Guest
If you read May 5 2006, 07:40 AM post this tells you what I did from piont of installing PWM.
Ok, assuming you mean the post on the 3rd (there isn't one from the 5th), I didn't reply to that one because I couldn't make a lot of sense out it, but I'll give it a shot now...

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I set a master password first.
Eric then asked you if you meant the MPW in PWM, or Firefox, and you said PWM, and that you never set a Master PW in Firefox... but the next part of your post says:

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Then.

I installed the password maker extension and deleted any previous password I had created with it.
Eh?  - this makes no sense - how can you set a MPW in PWM BEFORE you INSTALL it? And for that matter, how can you have previously set passwords with it, again, BEFORE you installed it...

See what I mean? Your explanation obviously is not complete - because the only way this can make sense is if you have previously installed then uninstalled PWM, but if so, you left that part out.

This is important because, if you install it, and change prefs and/or create some accounts, then uninstall it/reinstall it, then you are STILL using the settings/accounts that you CHANGED before you uninstalled it.

The only way to start over with default settings is to delete the 'passwordmaker.rdf' file that is in your profile folder. And by the way, this is also the file to backup if you want to save your settings, or migrate them to another computer.

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I want to use existing passwords so I have created a new group and in that group a new account. I want to use the Advanced Auto Populate function with the user name and password I already have, so in the user name section I entered my user name and in the Advanced Auto-Populate section I entered my password in field Name and field value by clicking onto the password that was in the password filed on the web site I want to log into.
Ok, first - you went to the login page of the account you are setting up... but you say that you 'clicked onto the password that was in the password field' - what do you mean? There was already a password there? If so, then something else is putting it there, unless you have already enabled auto-populate and refreshed the window - if so, try disabling auto-populate for this account until you finish setting it up - if not, then as I said, something else is populating it.

Next, you say that you entered your password in BOTH the field NAME and the field VALUE fields? If so, this is most likely your problem - unless the actual field-name on the form is the same as your password, which is unlikely to the point of being virtually impossible - in other words, do NOT change this value (field NAME) for ANY of these fields after PWM has populated it for you (after you click into the field) - it is the form-field name that PWM uses to determine which field to populate with which value.

Lastly, you say you are wanting to just use your OLD passwords, without changing them to ones generated by PWM. This is indeed how you would do this, but just want to confirm. Normally, unless the password field was NOT properly detected by PWM, OR (as in this case?) you wanted to use a non-PWM-generated password, you would NOT use these Advanced Auto-populate fields for the password field, you'd just let PWM do its thing. Also, you would still need to use the SAME MPW as you did when setting up the account initially.

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I then pressed the add button which added the password to the small window below the Add & Delete Selection buttons.

Now, when I go to the web page I want to log into which is www.pcanswers.co.uk then go to the forum section to log in, the user name is not populated and the password is compleatly different form the one that is in the Advanced Auto-Populate section. So what am I doing wrong?
Ok, but you left off something... did PWM prompt you for the MPW? If not, but a password got populated anyway, then indeed, something else (NOT PWM) is populating that field.

Hope this helped...

Charles